God and the Concept of Self-Determination

"It seems quite clear that when human beings determine themselves to be some person or some identity, self-determination is not the basic action involved in being the person or identity. By this I mean that human beings do things in order to determine themselves. For example, in order to become--determine oneself--the person who picks up this coin in front of me, I will have to pick up this coin in front of me. I will have do [sic] something in order to become this person, this identity. Similarly suppose I determine myself to be the winner of the Olympic hundred metres. I dont just determine myself as this as in a thought or as in a dream. Self determination is not the basic action involved in my being the hundreed metres Olympic gold medal winner. Winning the race is. This is what I do directly. I determine myself as the winner through winning the race. Self-determination is indirect....In contrast God's self determining of himself is basic in the sense of being irreducible. God's self-determining self is basic in this sense. There is a fundamental disanalogy between divine self-determination and mere human self determination. In divine self-determination God does not do anything as a condition of self-determination (what he does is determine himself). In other word, God does not create the world in order for it to be the case that he determines himself as creator. God determines himself as the creator of the world; therefore he is the creator of the world."

--Neil B. MacDonald. Metaphysics and the God of Israel. (Grand Rapids, Baker Academic 2006) p.30-31.

Comments

Patrick said…
I wonder at the idea that humans determine themselves to be certain kinds of persons or identities by what they do. While this is certainly the case in the examples offered in the text there, it must also be granted that there must be some prior capacity to be that person as well. I could determine myself to be a bird and take every course of action to see that realized, but ultimately I am not (metaphysically?) capable of such a transformation of being. So, I guess that I'm wondering how this would factor in to a discussion regarding human persons. With God, as the quote shows, His identity is in harmony with His acts. The prior capacity of being is realized perfectly in the concurrent act of creation. But with humans, the issue of appropriateness seems to be a factor as well, doesn't it? I'm thinking of J.L. Austen's "How To Do Things With Words", specifically the part having to do with the naming of a ship. If I'm not the one who can name a ship docked at the harbor, then it wouldn't seem to matter how much my actions mimic that which I intend to become. I falsely masquerade as one who names, be it by mistake or for more malicious reasons. Anyway, how do you think this might fit into what your interlocutor is talking about?
Derrick said…
Patrick,

Yes I agree that "appropriateness," is an important concept to deal with when talking about the "self-developement," of the human person! Certainly we don't have the ability to will (or act) to become birds, or whatever. There seems to be a basic identity that remains, or at least appears to remain, that "is" the limit-concept of whatever permutations of identity we go through. This is probably, at its root, one of the primary motivations of Idealism, or Kant's transcendental unity of apperception, namely that it appears there is "something," that appropriates new experiences to nonetheless be "my," identity despite the variegated material forms of the experienced phenomena (even the various experiences of myself seem to be appropriated by a self which is a "myself," above the experiences of myself--what Sartre and Robert Jenson would label simply as the 'focus' of consciousness).

The only caveat to the limit-concept of "appropriateness," would have to be, I believe, that it is not in fact a "transcendental unity," of my own consciousness or being which exists. Rather the wholeness or identity of the identity that perdures is based both on the embeddedness of myself in the greater totality of the world-as-whole (Pannenberg) and ultimately that my identity is given to me (and hence the what-I-am or what-I-could-be) via my embeddedness in a communal narrative that presents me with myself (Robert Jenson). So to speak, the "appropriateness," should not in my opinion be spoken of as an "essentialized" principle we "possess," but, going the way of Zizioulas, attributes and potential are themselves "themselves" as referents in a relational ontology. This implies that there is not a frozen form or an autarchic subjectivity of "mine" that is simply appropriating experiences; rather the "transcendental unity," is itself established in an exteriority of relationships that present me with myself, and I understand myself as related in a manner that is mediated through these relations.

This dovetails nicely, I believe, into MacDonald's concept of God's self-actualization vs. man's self-actualization. Indeed, strictly speaking (and this is something I think pop-psychology misses) is that, for finite human agents there cannot be "self-actualization," because this would demand that from the beginning of the action the acting "I" would be identical in the full sense with the determination which is to be the result of the action. The "self" can only be "actualized," if "self" is a fore-given concept-totality that then acts--but this is precisely against the "appropriateness," concept of the human, whose identity is time bound and contingent. So whereas God determines himself to be creator--and so is creator--man can act upon an object to attempt to determine himself without ability to gaurantee and control the course of the action. Hence there is (at least) a double discontinuity between man and God in this sense: God determines himself as something, say Creator, and so acts indirectly on things "exterior" which are precisely because God has determined himself creator of them (at least according to MacDonald's idiosyncratic Voluntarism); but this also means that God's identity in relation to the world is a true self-actualizing, because God is Gods-self wholly in the self-determination of himself in this relation. Hence His entrance into the world (and I am conjecturing here, as I have only begun MacDonald's book) is AS Himself, and so is the unfolding of Himself as He determined Himself wholly to be.

Anyway, hopefully that made sense. Im kind of typing on the fly. Anyway, thanks for the good observations!

P.S. congrats on the baby!
Patrick said…
Confession: I had to look up a bunch of those words. ;)

That said, I have a couple of things to say. First, thank you for the congratulations! Second, I began to write a response to this, but I think that I'm going to hold off for now. I hope that you are well!
Halden said…
You simply must resume posting. this silence has gone on far too long.
a. steward said…
Summer school was a boon to my posting. You just need to get a laptop to disguise your posting as "taking notes."